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PostSubject: Vornagar   Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:49 pm

This is a great melodic death metal band, maybe one of the greatest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob17u2zcyS4

I'm surprised they've been relatively unnoticed throughout the years. Not many people know them, for shame.
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:56 pm

sounds more like strait up black metal to me but good nontheless
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:30 pm

Yah probably not something I'd listen too >.<
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:07 am

I'd say they are Melodic Black Metal... But this is me... And the song was awesome... But... I don't know why... I don't really like the sound of the drum snare.
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:15 am

Well, I'm not really knowledgeable of both Black Metal and Melodic Death Metal, but isn't Black Metal usually with a gruffier, raspier guitar tone, the vocals also gruffier, more from the throat and the drums more monotonous than Death Metal in general?

Ah well, whatever the sub-genre it is, it's still metal and it kicks ass.
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:17 am

Nergal131 wrote:
Well, I'm not really knowledgeable of both Black Metal and Melodic Death Metal, but isn't Black Metal usually with a gruffier, raspier guitar tone, the vocals also gruffier, more from the throat and the drums more monotonous than Death Metal in general?

Ah well, whatever the sub-genre it is, it's still metal and it kicks ass.

Yes... You're right... But this is why I don,t call it Black Metal BUT Melodic Black Metal... But you're right... As long it's good...
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:46 pm

the line between melodic black metal and melodic death metal gets pretty fuzzy to be honest. It's two competing metal brands taking a component such as melody and making it work.

Melodic death usually has more understandable lyrics and a more prominent melody (though not always the case). Melodic black almost always makes melody less prominent (not always though) in an attempt to stay true to the genre's roots as an underground extreme metal style (though this is just plain silly).

I must say though, the posted song sounds like straight up death metal Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:47 pm

Vggamegod wrote:
the line between melodic black metal and melodic death metal gets pretty fuzzy to be honest. It's two competing metal brands taking a component such as melody and making it work.

Melodic death usually has more understandable lyrics and a more prominent melody (though not always the case). Melodic black almost always makes melody less prominent (not always though) in an attempt to stay true to the genre's roots as an underground extreme metal style (though this is just plain silly).

I must say though, the posted song sounds like straight up death metal Razz

Thanks for the background information, I'm not really into Black metal or Melodeath metal.

I have heard this band being labelled as all kinds of genres, but it's metal, and it's damn good.
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:53 pm

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Thanks for the background information, I'm not really into Black metal or Melodeath metal.

I have heard this band being labelled as all kinds of genres, but it's metal, and it's damn good.

I'm no expert on those genres, however I try to be knowledgeable xD

It's metal, it doesn't suck, and you like it: so I got no problem with it. I imagine though this is one of those bands fans would argue over genre in every youtube comment section xD
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:55 pm

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Nergal131 wrote:


Thanks for the background information, I'm not really into Black metal or Melodeath metal.

I have heard this band being labelled as all kinds of genres, but it's metal, and it's damn good.

I'm no expert on those genres, however I try to be knowledgeable xD

It's metal, it doesn't suck, and you like it: so I got no problem with it. I imagine though this is one of those bands fans would argue over genre in every youtube comment section xD

That's not really the main reason of argument and discussion. It's about the drummer and who the fastest one is, Joey Jordison or this one. That has been the root of nearly every discussion concerning Vornagar.
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:02 pm

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That's not really the main reason of argument and discussion. It's about the drummer and who the fastest one is, Joey Jordison or this one. That has been the root of nearly every discussion concerning Vornagar.

Oh hahahaha, I'm so tired of Joey Jordison, most overrated drummer ever. He's in a shitty band that's somehow immensely popular and does some gimmicky shit so every douchebag thinks he's some kind of drum god LOL

Man I hate people sometimes >.>
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PostSubject: Re: Vornagar   Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:05 pm

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That's not really the main reason of argument and discussion. It's about the drummer and who the fastest one is, Joey Jordison or this one. That has been the root of nearly every discussion concerning Vornagar.

Oh hahahaha, I'm so tired of Joey Jordison, most overrated drummer ever. He's in a shitty band that's somehow immensely popular and does some gimmicky shit so every douchebag thinks he's some kind of drum god LOL

Man I hate people sometimes >.>

I think he got thousands and thousands of fans because of his drumming when spinning or something like that. I saw a video about Joey Jordison's drum being lifted a bit and being turned a bit while still performing.
Can't say I hate Joey or hate Slipknot, they are pretty meh in my eyes. Atleast it's better than 50 cent or Little Wayne.
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